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TheUnforgiven
Sun Jul 24 2016, 07:18PM

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bills grandson wrote ...

probably so but where did he come from? The othe'r day there was a conversation and there are two Baldwins and they weren't sure which Baldwin lake was named for


Wilson dubbed the grassy expanse "Bear Valley" and one of the nearby shallow seasonal marshes "Big Bear Lake". This same ephemeral feature is today called Baldwin Lake after Elias J. "Lucky" Baldwin of Rancho Santa Anita fame, who bought the nearby Gold Mountain Mine that was renamed for him in 1876.

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Talmadge Rd.
Bartlett Rd.

Cedar Lake.
In 1913, the Talmadge brothers purchased the property where the lake, dam, and camp are now situated. They used the land to graze cattle, then sold it in 1922 to the Bartlett brothers, who built the dam in 1928. They in turn sold it in 1937 to family member Guy Bartlett, who charged visitors 25¢ for admission to the property.


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I have never believed Baldwin lake was what Wilson named. I don't think he went that far East.
Wilson kept a journal. If anyone has a copy please scan and post some of it.
I have always felt he came up the seven Oaks trail. Crossed between the small bodies of water near lagonita lodge and camped on the North shore just East of Fawnskin then departed up towards Hanna flats. It is the most logical and easiest way if you were coming across the area for the first time. He was also trailing Indians and that seems the way they would travel. I would love to read about it in his words Not filtered through us Johnny-come- latelys.

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bills grandson wrote ...

is that they shay it was named after? I never heard that. I thought it was a local cattle guy?


Look like your right BGS.

1906
Gus Knight, Sr., died and his Bear Valley ranch, 600 cattle, and 25 horses were sold to Bill Shay.


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1914
Will Shay and C. O. Barker purchased from the estate of the late E. J. Baldwin all 3,500 acres of his pasture land beside Baldwin Lake, and 600 head of cattle for $30,000.

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Elias J. “Lucky” Baldwin started a second Gold Rush in Big Bear with the construction of his 40 stamp mill at Gold Mountain.

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Add Barker to the list then
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TheUnforgiven wrote ...

Guy Maltby

In 1930, Guy Maltby, owner of the Bear Valley Milling And Lumber Company designed and built the huge four-storey clubhouse surrounded by a a golf course, beautiful landscaping, tennis courts, swimming pool, and gymnasium. The symbol of the club was a beautiful statue of Peter Pan sitting on a huge mushroom in the garden. The Peter Pan Woodland Clubhouse was a showplace and host to many gala parties, and was the center of social life in Big Bear City .

Also a style of house in the valley.

Anybody know approximately where this golf course was?
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©ammy wrote ...

Anybody know approximately where this golf course was?


Maybe this map will help: [Click Here]

Looks to be where the airport is and the properties on the south side of North Shore Blvd.

Maybe not. Looking at it closer it seems it might be the land between Greenway and Paradise. That makes more sense since the airport was already in it's baby stages at that time.
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That map makes me ask what and where were the Vagabond lakes?


Back to names- Stillwells of course should be added even if they don't have a street. Same with Tidwell I imagine.
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