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Craig ⭐
Tue Aug 13 2013, 09:07PM

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I was going to get up at around 2 or so and go check it out, but work and sleep took priority. I did catch one however at around 9:30pm before bed. That was cool enough for me thinking I wouldn't see any

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Tue Aug 08 2017, 09:26PM

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Resurrecting this thread, once again ... in case anyone forgot (cough).

Bottom line(s):
1. Best time to watch is the night of August 11th through the morning of the 12th. It's always been this way, and my source for this is pretty good (radio guys, of which I am one). The shower actually builds slowly and ends abruptly. So, you may see meteors several days leading up to the 11th-12th. I've watched a lot on nights from the 12th on, and have only seen "randoms".
2. Where to look: From a dark place with a minimum of sky glow and a clear 360 deg horizon; lay on your back with feet facing North-ish (NE if you start early); look straight up and let peripheral vision do its thing. If you just gotta pick one thing to focus on, make it the bowl of the Big Dipper ... if you must. The better you see the Milky Way, the better the show. Try not to be distracted by airplanes and satellites. If you watch long and intently enough, you will see both.
3 When exactly: Give up horizon to avoid sky glow; for early watchers, it starts in the East and moves West. Start looking around 9PM, then, well, hang in there! The "peak" is very close to dawn on the 12th, perhaps starting around 2AM. HOWEVER, see the 'radio and other' comment below.
4. Someone said this year's show would be the best in a long time, with a rate of perhaps 100 per hour. That's more than one per minute, so it is pretty good. Note, however, that most of the time they come in clusters. So if you see one, sharpen your senses, there may be more. It helps to watch in a small group.

Radio and Other Stuff:

Radio guys, particularly Hams, are not limited by light conditions. They bounce signals off of the meteor trails. This happens about 50 miles up, the same as the E-layer of the ionosphere. The once bounce range is, very roughly, 1000 miles. The variation is quite large. The best conditions for this are around 50 MHz (the Ham's 6 meter band). However, most Hams prefer the challenge of the 2 meter band, and hang out around 144.200 MHz as a general calling frequency. That's enough about that. Technology has changed a lot, so from hand pounded out code (CW) we now have burst data modes.

Some of the best contacts in terms of duration of the contact have been almost at noon on the 12th.

FYI, there are remote data collection systems that use meteor scatter to ship data from remote sites. Needless to say, it's not a lot of data, and there's no time pressure on when it arrives.

The best visual night I've ever had was many years ago. I'd dozed off up stairs, and the curtains were closed. It was about 2AM, and suddenly I woke up because the room was filled with flashes coming from the windows. That lasted about an hour, so we must have passed through a dense part of the cloud.

Be sure to watch for what I call "Dark Meteors". You'll know 'em when you see 'em. If you do, think about what you're seeing. Remember, the Milky Way is like a backlight.

It's on a weekend this year, so get out there! I for one don't have a lot of years of observing left. Radio is indeed fun, but ever since being kept awake all night at a Boy Scout campout in Napa, I'm hooked on watching Mother Nature at visible wavelengths!

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Craig ⭐
Wed Aug 09 2017, 09:16PM

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Awesome!! Thank you for the heads up BC! I think I will actually be able to get out there late/early and take a look!

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sned (KT7P)
Fri Aug 11 2017, 12:43PM

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Scanners and Hams can tune in on 146.940 and listen for the meteor noises being broadcast through the repeater that is a bit of a ways away. Any excuse to bounce RF off of something that moves!!!

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Great info, thanks! Have a Zero Gravity chair on my upper deck for viewing. Also have a grocery wagon, watering can and piece of lattice blocking steps up to deck. Now, if I can only erase the vision of the bears recently appearing on my trail cam during prime viewing time.
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