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luna
Wed Oct 10 2007, 09:23AM

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L18Flyboy
Wed Oct 10 2007, 10:44AM

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ÖmelbÖ wrote ...

anyone remember danger island?? (banana splits)


My wife and I both loved watching that when we were kids. A few weeks ago we introduced our kids to the reruns. It was a hoot watching the show again with them. The fight scenes in Danger Island were always choreographed so well! :-)
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©ammy
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Debbie wrote ...

Benny wrote ...

Ok wait, no, since god created earth and MWD built a dam.


I thought I read somewhere that the island was man made?????


I doubt any people placed those rocks there!
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bills grandson
Thu Oct 18 2007, 03:46PM

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I heard "the rock" was called peace rock, always seemed like piece rock to me, but have heard it called the other names too.
The buildings on TI are each just a room, very small. I don't think they have any insalation in them. It has been forever since I have seen inside them.
When we were kids a friend and I tried to steal a boat to row down and dig up the treasure, got caught twice and gave up. Cute story but I think we may have been 18
Dennis

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damcabin
Thu Oct 18 2007, 06:18PM
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Billgrandson,
love your story about wanting to row down and dig treasure on the island. The bungalows appear to be falling into disrepair.
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bills grandson
Fri Oct 19 2007, 09:45AM

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I think like the damkeepers house the FS wants things to get bad enough they can tear them down. They put all kinds of barriers up to prevent you guys from getting anything done.
Without prying, what area is your place in??
I love those old places down there. Papoose bay is where I would like to be. A little tough in the winter.
Are they still working at letting you buy your property?
Sometimes that seems to be the way they want to go, then it's let them run out and tear them down.
Would be great if some of them especialy the dam keepers house could get on the historical register.
There is a bunch of the postcards of TI n the gallery now,
would love to see someone research the area and write it up. My grandfather built a lot of the places there. One lady I met there had my Grandfather, my dad & me work for her over the years.
Dennis


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Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world.

"I solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same"

WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!
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damcabin
Fri Oct 19 2007, 12:20PM
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Dennis,
My place is directly across the lake from the dam keeers house. The Forest Service issues "special use permits" for the use of land underneath the FS cabins of which a yearly fee is paid. Treasure Island probably falls under the Historic District and would need to be restored under the Historic Guidelines, meaning keeping the original look. I don't think the Forest Service owns the buildings on Treasure Island. The Dam keepers house is owned by the Forest Service and they don't have the money to restore it. I'd head the historical society of BB had offered to take it over but was declined (not sure if this is true)

The cabins across from Papoose Bay are really cool. Such incredible history. The cabins in that area are classified historical. I'm actually doing research on my hill as the old timers are passing away and the history is being lost. The link posted to the Pomona Library is fantstic...thanks.
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bills grandson
Fri Oct 19 2007, 04:25PM

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I assume your above the highway. Those are really nice. I doubt if a lot of tourists find their way into your yards. beautiful sunrises there. Now I understand your concern during the fire. I was afraid they would loose that whole ridge. That is such a beautiful area up there with the meadows and oaks.
I had heard that the Forest Service had removed a lot of the dam keepers cabin's roof and porch to help it deteriorate. Probably stated as a safety issue. Forest Service uses a term I think it's called Arrested deterioration means they try to stabilize it but not fix it waiting for it to fall down.Cal trans would like to have it gone for when the replace the bridge. They really need to fix that corner somehow. I have been expecting those rocks to fall into the road for years. They shake when the trucks go by. West of the dam where they made the cut in the mountain had a few cabins up in the area they removed. I don't know if any of the road that led up there is left or not. Seemed like it went up quite a way.
My suggestion I'm sure you would not like would be to fill in the place between the dams and make a park like area with a new road up to the lease cabins behind the dam keepers and then straighten out the corner and then make the bridge a straight shot.
Then turn the stone house into a visitors center. would be great to be able to fish from the old dam again, even if it wouldn't be the same
A long time ago there was a panoramic B& W picture taken from the little hill by the restrooms. I hope somebody has a copy and will post it.
I made one a few years ago but it is much to big to send
Dennis.

Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.


Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world.

"I solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same"

WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!
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BBB
Thu Oct 25 2007, 05:55PM
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Dennis....Are you a Knickerbocker?
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BBB
Thu Oct 25 2007, 05:56PM
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©ammy wrote ...

Debbie wrote ...

Benny wrote ...

Ok wait, no, since god created earth and MWD built a dam.


I thought I read somewhere that the island was man made?????


I doubt any people placed those rocks there!


Garstin Island was man made. They did move those rocks to form the island. I am sure Helen knows this. If not, her son Lance or Ron Seymour will.
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