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Socalman
Thu Oct 04 2007, 10:13PM Email Thread Print View

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Way back in the 1950's I recall a friend of my father's taking us up to place on the south side of BBC to what was either a WWII POW camp or relocation camp. I think it was about a 1/2 mile south of Big Bear Blvd. ( I was only about 6 or 7 then). I wanted to contact Tom Core to see what he knew about it. Of course I can't do that now. Any old timers know anything about it?
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scm... I only know of two internment camps in CA; Manzanar in the Owens Valley and Tule Lake near the Oregon border.
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I heard that Bill Mann, aka Short Fuse also has passed away. Signed copies of all his books, EXCEPT the very last one which was on Big Bear, were/are available at Edelweiss. So there's no confusion, his last book is available in Edelweiss, but none that are signed.

I get waves of sadness as each of these folks passes on. Most folks have already probably forgotten Kendall Stone ... I wonder if his wife is still with us. Mr. Stone was part of the Valley history, and was way too young to die, IMHO. I have a copy of his book "Foxsong", but I think most of his history is in the Grizzly articles. He had a unique perspective, and I believe embodied the rugged, independent, forthright, nature of early Valley settlers.

Tom Core's last book was not published. Someone needs to step in. Folks gave him stuff.

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I didn't know Tom Core had another book. Perhaps the Grizzly would be interested in publishing it?
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Sat Oct 06 2007, 01:56PM

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socalman,

It might be my friends place at the end of Mitchell in BBC. It's spring/well fed and has an old building I've been told used to be many things.

When I first moved here, my other neighbors called it the "brothel". Then I heard the army used it. Then the current owner told me it was used for hunting dogs.

But it's basically a row of stalls, each about 8x10 or 10x10. I think there are four of them.

Anyway, I don't know how old that building is, but just a guess??

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Sat Oct 06 2007, 02:36PM

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It was at the end of Sawmill. Just past sugarloaf blvd I never saw any buildings there but for a long time you could see where it was. Know little else about it. Never seemed like a good place to me. It seems to have been kept a secret, as this is the first I have heard that anyone knew it existed.
They also had a R&R area for servicemen where the Marine base is now. It was closed shortly after the war and dismanteled. Then reinstated in the 60's.

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Kendall Stone should not be forgotten, part of the Talmage family. Rode horse as a cowboy from Hesperia to Joshua tree. Was part of the D day landing. One of the early deputies in the valley when SO closed and if something came up you called him at home. Served as under sherriff untill he retired. Wife's name was Mary Rose. She was living up north last I heard. I think their son John still spends time in Big Bear. I think he may have 3 books. Plus the most acurate history in the Grizzly. He also wrote a testimoney to Mary Rose that he sent to friends.
Definetly went to soon but doing what he loved most.

I have a question I have not been able to find the answer too. In the next panel There is a picture of an enormous building under construction. It was on Pine Knot above the apartment complex. Located on the old Pine Knot lodge property. Pcture was taken late 30's /early 50's Building did not last long. I have not been able to find anyone who saw it.
The packed snow is a toboggon run that started on the hill above Cherry lane at the south end of Pine Knot.
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bills grandson wrote ...

The packed snow is a toboggon run that started on the hill above Cherry lane at the south end of Pine Knot.

I wasn't aware that there was a quonset hut at the base of the toboggan run. I have a few old postcards of this toboggan run and apparently it was also a ski jump at the time as well. I have some postcard photos of skiers taking off on the pictured structure and then landing in the toboggan track. I think these jumpers were a part of the early ski club (the Viking Ski Club?) but I'm not sure.



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The hut they were building was enormous. It may have been the theatre that they had there for awhile, but I can't find anyone who remembers it. I am sure it didn't last very long.
You are right about the jump. I will have to look more but I'm not sure if they existed at the same time. The jump was about where the little shack was. It seems like it may have been alongside of it.
My dad jumped there in the 30's There was another jump behind the Elk's club. That was there untill mid 60's but not used. It was less then 2 feet wide.
There was also a ski area up off Clark's grade. There is still a little evidence of it if you know where to look. Tire rim nailed in a tree as a overhead line for a rope tow. I have never seen a picture of this spot.
I'll see if I have a picture of the jump you mentioned. I think I may have one.
Dennis

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if you guys could, please load these pics into the gallery as well...so that they stick around forever rather than disappearing when a topic fades away!
I created a new gallery for them [Click Here]

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