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Deb Doodah⭐
Wed Sep 23 2020, 06:52PM Email Thread Print View


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Since the other COVID thread has devolved into nothing more than arguing and snapping at each other, I am starting a new one.

This thread is for people to share helpful information. If you want to argue or be disruptive, take it elsewhere or it will be deleted.

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SDGrandma
Wed Sep 23 2020, 09:23PM

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Deb,,, Interesting "suggestion" from my doctor. He suggested to his younger patients like me, 70 years young and over to get a Covid test prior to getting the Senior super Flu vaccine. His take is that some of us may have it and not know and the Flu vaccine being given while having Covid may not be wise since your system is probably defending itself. He made it clear that he had no scientific background on this just wanted to give us a suggestion . That is my kind of doctor. He recognized that he did not know all but prescribed some common sense. Thought I would share.

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Thank you Deb!

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Jellylorum
Thu Sep 24 2020, 12:25PM

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SD Grandma. If any research on that pops up, it would be interesting to see the result.

I know some vaccines can bring on illness faster, if it is already incubating in your system. Some cats and dogs have a reaction simply because their immune systems have been over sensitized. Most vets take that into consideration when doing certain vaccines.

When I worked with animals, we used to see that in some pups. If they had been exposed to parvo or distemper without our knowledge, and then vaccinated after the fact, occasionally they would get sick a few hours after vaccination. Coincidence, or underlying infection being forced to surface more quickly?

It may have happened once to me. About 5 hours after one of my flu vaccinations, I came down with the flu. The flu shot cannot give you the flu, but I wondered then if it might have forced my underling infection to surface faster.

I've had flu vaccines many times, but only once had a possible reaction.
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wisteria1
Thu Sep 24 2020, 04:41PM
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If you google "should I get tested for COVID before getting a flu shot?" a bazillion websites come up, none of which I could find that recommended skipping the flu shot (EXCEPT if you have confirmed or suspected COVID already and then they suggest you stay home for the safety of the health care workers, not expose others).

Here's just one of the articles.

Should I get the flu vaccine?

Getting the flu vaccine every year is the best way to prevent infection with influenza, a virus that can cause many of the same symptoms as COVID-19, including fever, cough, difficulty breathing, and even death. Flu vaccines are usually available in the fall each year. Particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic, it’s even more important to be vaccinated against the flu to help prevent influenza, avoid a mistaken diagnosis of COVID-19 and preserve healthcare resources. There is no evidence that getting a flu vaccine increases the risk of getting COVID-19.

Additional COVID-19 Questions – Penn Medicine
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Benny ⭐
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Flu shots may be good preventative maint, but it really isn't 100% by any means. I have friends who get the flu shot every year and every year they still get the flu. I used to get the flu shot until I became terribbly ill a week after the shot, almost killed me. So I forgo the shot nowadays and seem to be sick less. Just my personal experience, some Dr's will tell you there's no way you can get sick off the flu shot, others will argue of course you can, you're getting all those viruses in a very small dosage to build your immune.

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wisteria1
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Benny ⭐ wrote ...

I used to get the flu shot until I became terribbly ill a week after the shot, almost killed me.


That could have just been timing. It takes about two weeks after the shot for your body to build up the antibodies and if you were already exposed, the vaccine would not yet have been effective. The injection flu vaccine is made with dead virus, the nasal spray method is the one that uses weakened live ones (if that makes a difference).

I'm old, I have respiratory problems, my doctor strongly recommends the vaccine for me and I'll take a 50% chance of protection as better than nothing but that's just my choice. I'd rather not come down with something that even resembles COVID because I have the feeling health care resources are going to be strained.
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wisteria1 wrote ...

Benny ⭐ wrote ...

I used to get the flu shot until I became terribbly ill a week after the shot, almost killed me.


That could have just been timing. It takes about two weeks after the shot for your body to build up the antibodies and if you were already exposed, the vaccine would not yet have been effective. The injection flu vaccine is made with dead virus, the nasal spray method is the one that uses weakened live ones (if that makes a difference).

I'm old, I have respiratory problems, my doctor strongly recommends the vaccine for me and I'll take a 50% chance of protection as better than nothing but that's just my choice. I'd rather not come down with something that even resembles COVID because I have the feeling health care resources are going to be strained.


Agreed, anything is better than nothing, hence the argument with masks. While some say they do nothing, they prevent you from at least spitting on someone, so 1% is better than zero. The flu shot thing was very flukey, but dr's have told me that was likely the cause.

The flu shot is made from dead viruses and cannot "give" you the flu. However, the vaccine can trigger an immune response from your body, so you may have a few mild symptoms, like achy muscles or a low-grade fever, which arguably could trigger the flu. The nasal flu vaccine, FluMist, is made with a weakened live flu virus so......?

Take it at your own risk I guess, if it helps protect people I'm all for it, just may not be for me.

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Jellylorum
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One of my old co-workers never gets the flu shot, and never gets the flu, either.

When I get sick, I tend to take longer to recover than is typical. When I cough, another coworker used to tell me I sound like I'm trying to hack up a lung; it feels like it, too. I choose to get the vaccine, especially since the vaccine rarely causes issues for me.

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Nature
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I get the flu shot yearly snd have never have had any reaction to it other than not getting the flu even when someone in my home still gets it and has not gotten the shot. I understand there is a Pneumonia shot for people over 60 or 65. I would think that that might not be a bad idea with Covid, seeing how pneumonia is one of the killers during Covid infections, especially with the vulnerable population.
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Dave™
Oct 21 : 08:09pm
Me too, Sportj. I just received this text. "Your ballot for the 2020 General Election was received and will be counted. Thank you for voting!".

Sportyj
Oct 21 : 07:46pm
I got a text that my ballot was counted! Wahoo! So anyone else who is waiting (after using the drop boxes) it took exactly one week.

Sportyj
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MtnTeach - the ballot boxes aren’t third party. They are official county elections office drop boxes.

MtnTeach
Oct 21 : 04:12pm
Dropped off mines directly at the post office, don't need a 3rd party. Ballottrax worked fine for me!

wisteria1
Oct 21 : 04:09pm
7:30 a.m. Tues - given to mail lady at Crestline Post Office
8:02 a.m. Wed - notified by ballottrax that my ballot had been received by USPS
1:16 p.m. Wed - notified my ballot had been received by SB Registrar of Voters

USPS worked fine!

Humble Daisy
Oct 21 : 03:46pm
I dropped my ballot in the dropbox at the Crestline library a couple of weeks ago, it took about a week for ballot tracker to notify me that my ballot had been received and counted.

Airport Razz
Oct 21 : 03:41pm
Yes, I was so politely informed by the Big Bear Postmaster that putting anything in the box outside is no guarantee it will get processed. They even tried to extend that non-responsibility to the box inside the PO. So basically he was telling me my mail no matter where I put it, will maybe get delivered, depending on how the post office feels that day. Amazing.

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Casadelgado
Oct 21 : 03:40pm
Sport, I believe the only couple I asked said 4 days but I'll text them and ask again. All were impressed with the tracking service.

Kel
Oct 21 : 03:27pm
I dod, however, use the indoor drop at the Post Office rather than an outside box.

Kel
Oct 21 : 03:24pm
Official Absentee ballot instructs us to go to SBCountyElections.com. I dropped mine on 10/17, it was received at the SB County registrar on 10/20.

Sportyj
Oct 21 : 03:19pm
Casadelgado - Did they say how long it took for them to show up as received?

Sportyj
Oct 21 : 03:19pm
Dave - ha ha I don't know why I assumed you dropped them off last Monday! Keep me posted if yours is updated any time soon.

Casadelgado
Oct 21 : 02:14pm
We have 3 friends who used the drop box at the Library and they all have been received by the tracking. Dropping ours off tomorrow.

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