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Fri May 22 2020, 10:14AM

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Just really curious... how much does it cost to spend a day or two in an ICU? Last time I had to pay the hospital bill for a two day stay, broken ribs, flailed chest and collar bone. Nothing they could do about that but watch. Cost me $17,000 but that wasn’t ICU. I understand some patients are in ICU for 60 days. 70% are not old. Sure good the economy is opening so those bills get paid so long as it isn’t those who think they are immune or their family members or their close friends. I understand cremation is relatively cheap. It’s just those darned hospital bills. I know .... just ignore those too. 😊
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All school graduations have been canceled because of the virus. The government doesn't want large groups of people in the same area. This sucks for the seniors. They have worked their butts off to cross the stage. So here is a solution. Have the grad's go to Walmart, Home Depot or Lowes in the cap & gown and they can have their name called on the PA.
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Blame the city for the bare shelves, they are the ones that opened up the floodgates without thinking about the chain of supply. Thanks morons.

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Respectfully of course MtMan, you can't have it both ways. On one hand you're arguing about our freedom and rights to get back to normal, then once we do you complain about that. So how I understand you know is, instead of the freedom to go surfing or going to the mountains on a nice holiday weekend, we should in fact be locked back down and living in fear? Which is it?
And by the way, the County of San Bernardino received approval from the Governor to re-open restaurants and retails shops anyway, so what the City did really made no difference in the end.


MtMan
Tue May 12 2020, 11:11PM
And there is how to control society......fear. I'm done with living in fear, fear for you and fear for me. Call me what you want, don't care. Our constitutional rights are being trampled. How? Fear. When one gets arrested for simply surfing on an ocean alone or protesting, then freedom is eroded. I want to live in freedom, you know, the freedom guaranteed by God and our constitution. Those of you that want to live in fear? Your choice. I have the right to make mine, I choose freedom.

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Blame the city for the bare shelves, they are the ones that opened up the floodgates without thinking about the chain of supply. Thanks morons.


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This was moved from the chatbox. I was responding to a post on someone talking about how they couldn't find things in our stores, hence my comment. Also, the county lifted more restrictions after my post was made, at least, I did not hear about it until after. I guess you may think having bare shelves for residents is normal and ok? I don't think it is good that the stores simply can't be keep up with the extra pressure be at this time. Would you not agree?
Hope this clarifies things for you. Pretty simple.

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In my memory, our 2 grocery stores here have always been temporarily wiped out every 3 day weekend. .. we just plan ahead and get necessities a couple days in advance. We learned to always keep a stock of essentials in our larder from when we lived up in Northern Montana, where winter storms regularly wiped out supply chains for weeks at a time. Just part of living in a fluid world......only in the very latest modern times have humans given up taking care for themselves, I believe from the advent and proliferation of the supermarkets from around the 50's. Especially more so in urban areas.

We have always been preppers, relying on planning that includes asking questions like "how do we survive if the "Big One"(San Andreas)hits in the middle of winter takes out our gas lines and roads, and electrical lines coming up the hill, and what about ground shift/faulting in the vally that severs the CSD water lines and they cannot get the material/labor necessary to restore water service....with no way to restock grocery stores, because of the guaranteed wipeouts from rockslides taking out our 3 main routes into Big Bear. Are you going to plan on depending on the goodness of the Natl Guard to airlift emergency food to us?

Lots of questions that ABSOLUTELY MUST be addressed by each individual, to keep their families safe and secure. Which is what 150 years ago in america literally every family through the great expansion already knew how to do. We have become way too soft, relying on others to take care of us, and now are perpetually coddled by govt giving us free S#!+ every time something totally predictable happens. This only works until something truly huge happens, then it is every person for themself. Are you prepared for another CME event like the Carrimgton event? Study of the Sun suggests this happens regularly, and since the last century we had that direct hit, it is a matter of throwing the dice until we get hit again, and grid is permanently destroyed. Our wise govt over the last few decades has decided in its wisdom to offshore all transformer production to China, under the pressure of liberal based environmental rules that made it too prohibitive for US based industry to comply with PCB handling. If they have to rebuild their infrastructure at the same time, guess who is going to be without electricity for a few years...... might be a golden gift to them, where all they have to do is declare their own production a national vital asset, and conveniently let america go back to medieval living, on purpose.
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