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Fri Jan 03 2020, 04:47PM
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Got my renewal policies from foremost this last week for another year. They only increased by about $20. Hoping they don’t non renew next year...


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Sat Jan 04 2020, 07:03AM

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Just received our renewal from The Hartford. About a 10% increase.

I started out with nothing and I still have most of it!
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Tue Jan 14 2020, 04:51PM
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Does that mean that iIf my house is withing the lsited zip codes, THEY HAVE TO RENEW?
Because we just got a letter of NON-RENEWAL FROM Travelers.
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Deb Doodah⭐
Tue Jan 14 2020, 04:59PM

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Yes if your house is within the zip codes listed they cannot non renew you However that doesn’t mean they won’t raise your rates.
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Wed Jan 15 2020, 10:21AM
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Thanks for the clarification!
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Tue Jun 23 2020, 02:01PM
John Acosta
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Resurrecting this long dormant thread: We just had an inspection on our house by Hartford. Seems they are requiring more than what CALFIRE requires, for example the neighbor has a tree that their branches hang over our garage. Hartford says no branches can hang over the structure. Tree trimmer says if he cuts the branches it would kill the (neighbor's) tree because there's so many of them (branches). Has anyone encountered this before?

And what is the latest news on the renewal of the policies?
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Airport Razz
Tue Jun 23 2020, 10:48PM
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Yes, and one never got settled, the people sold the cabin before anyone made a big stink. Another did trimming with fingers crossed, tree didn't die, yet. Used to be just had to keep trimmed away from structure, now there is imaginary infinity line shooting up into the sky which nothing can overhang into. Need to talk to neighbor and hopefully get them on your side. Legally it can get messy. Might also have heart to heart with insurance company. A few years ago Allstate said I was responsible for removing 2 dead trees that weren't even in my yard or my neighbors. One was 4 houses down the street. Also had fight about firewood and wood fence. I had to store my firewood 30 ft away from structure, which was impossbile on my lot with how house and garage are arranged, but the neighbors pile 15 ft away on other side of a wood fence was OK. Had the inspector standing in the yard and asked him 'Well, now what'. And just how was I supposed to comply with the BS regulations. He almost had ananeurysm, but still only got 'I'll have to get back to you'. Got a retraction a week later. Who is in charge of this rodeo??????
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Fri Jul 03 2020, 08:13PM
Big Bear Dee
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Here's one I haven't seen before. We just received a Notice of Nonrenewal of Homeowner's Insurance.
Reason for nonrenewal is: Increase in Property Hazards Beyond What is Normally Accepted. This notice is to advise you that a non-renewal notice was issued for the following underwriting reasons:
*Log, earth, underground and "do it yourself" homes, additions or other structures on the residence premises are ineligible: "Dwelling is Log Home" in addition,
*Dwellings with wood, wood pellet and coal stoves are ineligible: "Dwelling has a Wood Stove" Our home is a log sided home, not a full log. So, is everyone with a wood burning fireplace going to receive one of these notices? What a crock!
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Fri Jul 03 2020, 10:39PM
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Did you purchase the policy through an agent? They need to go to bat for you if you did. What the insurance company is saying is that you have a log home and a wood stove, neither of which you have. Your agent needs to communicate with their underwriting department and explain that to them. The people who do the drive by inspections aren't always very astute and they frequently error when it comes to wood stoves. They assume if they see a metal chimney it's a wood stove instead of a fireplace. Fireplaces aren't an issue but wood stoves are with many insurers. Likewise with the log siding. Log siding isn't an issue, but many insurers will not insure true log homes, particularly if they believe it's a kit home.

If you purchased the policy directly you need to call them and explain that they made a mistake and insist on an inspection while you're present, and allow them to see that you do not have a wood stove. You don't have to just accept their notice, you can fight it particularly since they are wrong. Fighting it and keeping the insurance is far easier in the long run than trying to find another company.
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Sat Jul 04 2020, 09:13AM

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We switched to fair plan and farmers rider. Nationwide was being ridiculous. Non renewed, then after expiration date came and went tried to send me a bill for renewal saying they decided not to enforce their woodland fire policy where they were basically cancelling us due to neighbors trees and four foot weeds. I told them if they were this bad when I did not have responsibility, and my property is perfect, I felt if something were to ever happen I wohld be in court five years try ing to make them rebuild my house. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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