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L18Flyboy
Tue Aug 30 2011, 12:00PM

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Thanks for posting these. I took a few with my cell phone but didn't realize the dang thing had switched to macro mode, so most of them are blurry.

I was at the airport when one of the hotshots jumped on the ridge northeast of the airport, but couldn't get a decent shot of him from the terminal building. 5 more were supposed to jump but I couldn't hang around to see them.

Note to self... keep a real camera with you!
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L18Flyboy wrote ...

Note to self... keep a real camera with you!

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Mtn.goat John
Tue Sep 06 2011, 12:17PM

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Craig (KJ6BCM) wrote ...

How did we get them? Are they not LA county leased? Also, don't they normally start the lease in late September? Good to see them however. Thanks for the pictures Bookie!

Craig, I wondered the same thing. Also the planes up there had #’s of 267 and 264 I think. Saw the coverage of the Mandeville IC yesterday and the #’s on those planes (which were identified by a PIO as Super Scoopers) were 245 and 240, what gives? Anyone got any ideas? Cy do you know?

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I cant directly answer the questions, but I do know that Cy told me the super scoopers that were in big bear last week were based at san bernardino tanker base. Im not sure if they're still there now. I also know that the LA Country contract for 2 super scoopers just began in the past couple of days, after they were in big bear. One thought I have is that the forest service got ahold of the super scoopers that were up in big bear as replacements for the P3's that got canceled a while back.
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©ammy wrote ...

I cant directly answer the questions, but I do know that Cy told me the super scoopers that were in big bear last week were based at san bernardino tanker base. Im not sure if they're still there now. I also know that the LA Country contract for 2 super scoopers just began in the past couple of days, after they were in big bear. One thought I have is that the forest service got ahold of the super scoopers that were up in big bear as replacements for the P3's that got canceled a while back.


The scoopers that were here have gone to Texas to help with the fires out there. Those 3 scoopers are from Arizona that the USFS have contracted for the rest of this fire season.


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firephoto84 wrote ...

©ammy wrote ...

I cant directly answer the questions, but I do know that Cy told me the super scoopers that were in big bear last week were based at san bernardino tanker base. Im not sure if they're still there now. I also know that the LA Country contract for 2 super scoopers just began in the past couple of days, after they were in big bear. One thought I have is that the forest service got ahold of the super scoopers that were up in big bear as replacements for the P3's that got canceled a while back.


The scoopers that were here have gone to Texas to help with the fires out there. Those 3 scoopers are from Arizona that the USFS have contracted for the rest of this fire season.




Also the three scoopers are CL-215's and the scoopers that LA contracts are CL-415's.

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The scoopers just got to LA County where they are from there fire season ended on the 1st.

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Mtn.goat John
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Cammy, Cy thanks for that. Figured you'd know.
One other question are the 415’s a little larger plane? I’ve seen the ones based at Van Nuys flyover a number of times and they seem bigger than the ones in Bookie’s pictures. Maybe it is an illusion trying to judge size in a picture.

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Mtn.goat John wrote ...

Cammy, Cy thanks for that. Figured you'd know.
One other question are the 415’s a little larger plane? I’ve seen the ones based at Van Nuys flyover a number of times and they seem bigger than the ones in Bookie’s pictures. Maybe it is an illusion trying to judge size in a picture.



No the only thing that is different is the engines. The 215 has the old engines and the 415's have the turboprop engine's. Thats why they call them super scoopers and the 215's scoopers.

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Mtn.goat John
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Thanks again Cy.
Looked at them on Wikipedia, difference in size is negligible ½” in length, 1” in wingspan and 3” in height. Doubt I could see that difference.


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robk (K6RBK)
Jun 17 : 09:12pm
We must have driven by just before Marty, as we passed 3 responding fire vehicles once we passed the scene.

I was paying close attention to the folks directing traffic so I didn't get a good look at precisely where we were (or the vehicles involved), but if it's the one I'm thinking of that corner is reverse banked with a fairly straight stretch leading into it (downbound); easy to come into it a little too fast (have seen lots of cars do it) and there aren't any of the arrows marking the corner ahead.

Hope everyone recovers.

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 09:07pm
I have to sign off, but keep up to date with the CHP link. [Click Here]

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 08:42pm
STILL 20-30 MINUTES FOR PATIENT EXTRICATION.

Portia
Jun 17 : 08:31pm
He said it was an older dark grey car against the tree and a white compact was the second vehicle but I do see that the CHP log makes no mention of a second car.

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 08:23pm
This is the information from the CHP log: [Click Here]

Marty
Jun 17 : 08:19pm
Wow, I didn't really see the second involved car!

Marty
Jun 17 : 08:18pm
One car, off the side, looked like it might have rolled first. Two or three other cars on scene; no obvious damage so I'm not sure if they were involved. Also one 18 wheeler with a truck on it's bed also pulled over. Pedestrians out directing traffic around the wreck. I was surprised to see units from Big Bear responding. That's a long time to be trapped!

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 08:18pm
Thanks

Portia
Jun 17 : 08:17pm
My husband just called on his way down 38. The downward traffic has been released. Most of the victims have been cleared. One car still wedged up against a tree and they are working to get someone out of that car. It was a two car head on TC.

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 08:13pm
They shut it down so Mercy Air could land at the Jenks Lake turnout. Did you just see one car Marty?

Marty
Jun 17 : 08:11pm
Passed that accident 1/2 hour ago on my way up. They seemed to be working to excavate the occupant(s). Road was not closed at that time. Only half the down bound lane was blocked. Saw two units from BBC fire responding. I don't understand these types of accidents!

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 08:07pm
EXTRICATION STILL IN PROGRESS

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 07:52pm
HIGHWAY 38 CLOSED AT JENKS LAKE.

Bookworm
Jun 17 : 07:52pm
JUST HEARD THAT THE PATIENT IS STILL TRAPPED.

Whatever
Jun 17 : 07:41pm
What is UP with all these accidents on the 38? Sheesh!


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